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Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

I just picked up a used Tak for $65 and it looked pretty good except for a ding on the bottom where someone had maybe dropped it. I figured I could somehow salvage the chipped wood on that part of it. I also couldn't really play it because it was at a thrift store and was missing the 6th string. I still thought I was getting a pretty good deal, so when I got it home, I put on another string and immediately noticed fret buzz coming from both the new 6th string and the 1st string--they're both hitting the fret at the first fret bar. If I press down at the second fret, the buzz goes away. I'd like to think I could maybe adjust the truss rod and have this little irritation go away--especially since I told my wife what a good deal I got on it. ;), but I've tried turning it counterclockwise, which I believe looses the neck and should do the trick, only it doesn't seem to have worked, or I haven't turned it far enough. At any rate, it's still buzzing. Any ideas?
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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/5/2013 8:12 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

I honestly had the same problem with one of my electrics yesterday. If I were to look at the guitar from the head stock towards the body, I think I went counter clockwise and the buzzing got worse on my high e-string.

Of course, that was around 1:30am... so I could be remembering wrong. Anyway, I went the other way and it got better.



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1/5/2013 10:09 PM

Shane Roe (9823) wrote:

Thanks, Cinda.



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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/6/2013 2:36 AM

Mike Oppenheim (931) wrote:

Hard to know without seeing it, but that doesn't sound like that's a truss rod issue. At a point, the truss rod can't be loosened anymore, and you would've know if you got there. Do you actually see the strings contacting the first fret? Do they buzz when they're open, or only when you play at the first fret?

One possibility is that the fret is too high, in which case you could see it lifting at the edges.

More likely, it sounds like the nut is too low, or the grooves for strings 1 and 6 are too deep, with the same outcome. To raise the nut, you could put a shim (usually the width of a business card is fine) under the nut. If the grooves are too deep, you can raise them slightly using a filler made of white glue and sawdust.



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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/6/2013 9:13 AM

Shane Roe (9823) wrote:

Thanks, Mike. In response to your question, it only buzzes when played open.



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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/6/2013 6:54 PM

CBond None (143) wrote:

When setting up guitars, most luthiers use a capo up and down the neck to give them a gauge of whats happening with the neck. Like Op said, it sounds like the nut, but could be a fret or the bridge. His suggestion is a good one and I would try that first. If not, you can raise the the bridge by clipping slivers of thin picks with a pair of scissors. If that doesn’t work I would see a pro, don’t fiddle with the frets if your not experienced.



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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/6/2013 11:34 PM

Mike Oppenheim (931) wrote:

Just to put it out there for future troubleshooting, open string buzz is usually an issue with the nut. Even if its not buzzing against a fret, it may be buzzing against an uneven groove in the nut, which can also cause strings to break...so troubleshooting tip #2: if your strings are breaking up near the nut, you may have a sharp edge in the groove that needs (an extremely gentle) filing.

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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/6/2013 3:27 PM

David Mackie (11072) wrote:

+1 for Mike Oppenheim. There isn't a lot of hand finishing done on lower priced Asian instruments, so very often you end up with the kind of problems you describe, but truss rod problems will usually show up in the middle of the neck.

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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/7/2013 12:49 PM

Ken Richardson (9051) wrote:

I doubt the first fret buzz can be cured with adjusting the rod.

One easy trick to raise the nut slots is to fill them, or partly fill them, with super glue. Then you can cut or file the slot again to lower the strings.


If this guitar turns out to be a keeper, you may want to make a new nut and saddle for it. A lot of lower priced instruments would benefit from the nut and saddle being made from better material, and also you can set the nut height and saddle height to your liking when you put on new ones.

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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/7/2013 3:55 PM

Shane Roe (9823) wrote:

I'd be worried about how to cut them so they aren't as deep as the one I just filled in with the glue. What would you use to cut that slot?

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Re: Buzzing frets on my Takamine G330

1/8/2013 1:07 PM

Ken Richardson (9051) wrote:

I recommend an Xacto saw. You can pick up an Xacto saw at a hobby store for not a lot of money. Might find it at a big box store too.

I have had one for over 10 years, used it on my hobby stuff and made nuts for a couple guitars along the way.