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Re: 3rds and 6ths: OOPS The Question...
3/12/2012 7:50 PM
Marc Mule' (29) wrote:
Thanks Randy- Yes, your answer does help- however, I think we're speaking the same language- whenever "modes" get brought up, unless the guy you're conversing with also has them "under the fingers", it starts total corn-fusion.
You mentioned playing either 3rds or sixths up or down the neck diatonically in the sequence of the A Major scale ("ionian mode"). Then, responding to my question, you mentioned also playing the V and simply playing the Major Scale (ionian) sequence, starting from the an 'E' note in the dyad/double stop. Technically that IS playing the mixolydian mode sequence.
Now again, let's say we're on the I ['A', in this [I-IV-V]...The E mixolydian sequence (or for that matter, phrases out of an E Major scale alone...-same thing, sounds great in A.] My observation is that, say we're talking running a 3rds sequence on the first and second strings... it would go as follows;
From nut to bridge:
Clearly, that initial m3 * consists of an open E string (or of course, string 1, fret 12)and 2nd string, 2nd fret (C#/Db). Even though the actual m3 is going from C#/Db to E, mentally-physically, you eyeball the 'E' note (1st string) and begin playing THERE, INSTEAD OF, say, starting with the Maj3 (**E to G#/Ab...string 2, fret 5 & string 1, fret 4). This Maj3 forces you to attack the sequence, thinking first about where the 'E' is on the second string...less fun, since we're all accustomed to, diving at roots on the 6th, 5th and 1st string). See where I'm going here? Admittedly, 'E' is an easy example, because of the open E and 12 fret E...
For the hell of it, playing 3rds on the 2nd and 3rd string presents the same bitch...
From nut to bridge,
Using the same logic w/ THIS string pair forces you to spot and nail the 'E' note *m3 (string 2, fret 5 & string 3, fret 6). Worse, the other or next double stop you COULD use as a starting reference forces you to spot and nail the 'E' note *Maj3 (string 2, fret 9 & string 3, fret 9). I-don't-THINK-so, ha ha...
Sorry to "milk" this whole thing...as you know, the exact same logic for these 3rd sequences played in "E Mixolydian", applies to the min and Maj 6th sequences played out on both the 1st and 3rd as well as 2nd and 4th string pairs.
After writing this turd up, I think I've accidentally managed to answer my own question... if you want to play 3rd and 6th sequnces of any kind (mode), SPECIFICALLY the 2nd and 3rd string pair 3rds and the 2nd and 4th string 6th's you HAVE to get insta-under-the-fingers comfy/familiar with notes on string 2, "the B string". DUH. (Slaps own head...).
I sure hope this helped you or anyone else...have to admit, in a curiously mentally masochistic way, the process helped me... Thanks for reading and sorry if anyone out there would like to smack me upside the head for this stuff. Marc