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For Those Americans Who Care

So it seems like the USA is turning into a country
filled with fear about a new war with Iran,
another great depression and a debt that will
ultimately wreck havoc on the financial situation.

The upcoming presidential election for the US is
coming up and will be a very critical deciding
point. It could possibly mean the difference
between disaster and peace for the US.

Please do your research guys. I know I have little
say in this because I'm not exactly up to speed on
everything. But the reality is, only one candidate
seems to stand out among them all: RON PAUL!!

PLEASEE!!!! Look into what this guy is all about.
He's a strict constitutionalist who believes that
America's problem is paranoia and keynesian
economics.

I'm not telling you to vote for him. I'm telling
you to quit only looking at what the most popular
candidates say.

Thank you for reading this,
Adrian
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2/6/2012 12:05 PM

Randy Combs (6512) wrote:

It is all a popularity contest, real issues do not matter to the majority of people, so Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance, sad but true because he has the best ideas for the US



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2/6/2012 3:43 PM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

A great man once said, a person is smart, a collective are morons"

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2/6/2012 3:55 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

To trust is good, not to trust is better.

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2/6/2012 4:18 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

I know this has nothing to do with guitar but at
least many of you are Americans (or at least are
influenced by what the US does). The fact that the
US can easily go into a depression quite soon
isn't really the problem.

It's the whole notion of big governments. The US
government somehow decides to declare war out of
fear when in reality, there was no threat to begin
with.

It's like punching a person because you think they
were ready to punch you first.

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2/6/2012 7:46 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

It's like taking candy from a baby.

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2/7/2012 1:39 PM

Chris Pinto (24464) wrote:

RON PAUL 2012!

He won't win, but.....

Blame the media! They clearly push who they want!

We all know, Mr. "corporate puppet" Romney, is the one now being pushed by the media. Ron Paul doesn't even get the time of day by news programs, while Romney keeps getting higher, and Obama Bin Laden is the Golden Child, and can do no wrong. I just don't get it....

Ron is CLEARLY the best choice for America, but, he won't win, because he puts the fear of God into the entire Government. They're seriously afraid of that man. And they should be.

It's time for us to take back this Country, and wake the hell up to what's going on, and impeach every scumbag from office, END THE FED, END THE IRS, shrink the Government.....and it better happen soon, before we lose everything!

Understand that this is coming from a guy who never cared about politics AT ALL...Until maybe 6-8yrs ago....well.....Guess what? I'm constantly writing to my local Gov't officials (OFTEN!), writing to Congress, I'm long-time member of the NRA, and trying to make SOME kind of change. Yeah, I'm but one person, and it won't do a damn thing, but, I'm trying.

The U.S. Constitution is being flushed right down the toilet, and the sheeple just watch it swirl down the pipes.....Very sad....very sad indeed.

I'm done ranting....sorry! :)



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2/7/2012 5:27 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

I know it's wrong to say this but... I HATE PEOPLE WHO LOVE BIG GOVERNMENTS!!!





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2/9/2012 9:11 AM

I-air Color (590) wrote:

Nice post
Having lived outside of America for nearly 20 years and really know nothing of the political scene, I can only say one thing, well maybe more. Just google "homeless in America". That will tell you the state that America is currently in. Also google" how many are receiving food stamps", that too will also be an eye opener. The fact of it is, the politician has sold his soul to the most creative sponcer to "free trade" (no import tax). And allowed below US market prices of imported goods into the country. I know for a fact that you can buy t-shirts at Kmart for around 8 bucks. Those same t-shirts can be bought for 3 bucks here in japan at discount clothing stores in Tokyo. Kmart is making a killing on the profit they sellgoods from china. But unless you vote in a President that will stand up for the "working American"change is only a dream. In my opinon most Americans are living in the past. Nothing returns. Can you return home once you left. Well, maybe, but it is all different. American polictics is not for the people, it is for the politican and there families and friends and how much can the swindle without being caught. You know "the recent insider trading sh.. that they legally been getting away with. If you and I did it, we'd be going to jail for maybe 11 years. AMERICAN POLITICS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SHAM AND IT IS A SHAME FOR ME TO HAVE TO SAY THAT.



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2/7/2012 5:30 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

Hopefully people will wake up when the US starts REALLY falling apart. Then everyone will think: wait... the government has gotten larger and the US has become worse off... I guess that's a correlation. (Lightbulb turns on).





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2/7/2012 7:38 PM

Matt Wood (2843) wrote:

Im Australian but I knwo a bit about whats goin on with this cause I watch the daily show and colbert report on pay tv a couple times a week when I'm not doin much .

Ron Paul does seem like a politican with his head screwed on the right way and those a rare in every country.

though if I was in the US I'd be part of stephen colbets super PAC in a second . Have so much respect for john stewart and stephen colbert.great talents and ideas



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2/8/2012 5:52 AM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

Most liberals think that America is like an eternal spring that will never dry up. They revile America and what it stands for. They believe socialism and communism will lead them to Utopia but close their eyes to the reality of communism (dictators, starvation, and genocide). They'll have you believe that homosexuality, pedophilia, satanism, perversity, and whatever else comes to mind is normal. They'll agree with the constitution only when it serves their purpose, otherwise it's flawed and must be changed. They believe they're always right just as their role models (Stalin, Mao, Fidel etc...) thought so too. They'll use Hollywood to distort any type of fact, to promote anti-social behaviors, to glamorize drugs and criminals, and above all to mock and ridicule normal people. They trust nobody, are paranoid, but still cry foul because Senator Joe McCarthy actually was right and beat them at their game. Facts never stop the true liberal, he'll keep on talking until he sees someone breaking into his house.....then he'll call 911.....the police will arrive in 5 minutes....he'll cry to the newspapers that they should have been there in 2 minutes....he'll sue the city and police....he'll make the rounds of the talk shows with Wolf and Anderson....he'll write a book about those terrible 3 minutes of pain he went thru waiting for the police....he'll go on Oprah or Dr Phil to show his human side....he'll write a book....he'll go on more talk shows....he'll make more money....he'll buy a house in an upscale neighborhood....he'll make everyone pay for his 3 minutes of suffering.......and yet he'll be the first to criticize the police and take sides with the criminal.....he'll accuse the military of atrocities for peeing on dead soldiers but won't bat an eye when Americans are butchered, beheaded, and driven thru the streets by the enemy......he'll....he'll....he'll.....If you take the apostrophe off "he'll"....he'll be going to hell.



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2/8/2012 4:58 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

What bothers me about so much liberals is that they're usually glorified professors at universities. My friends were telling me that they were teaching keynesian economics instead of the contrary.

I'm in college right now and I have to say.... what is considered "smart" and "the only way" is exactly what is causing this country to fall apart. And they deny it. Thankfully I have friends that don't think "big government".

BTW well said Adriano. Even though I don't care about what's natural, it's the whole idea of big governments






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2/8/2012 5:30 PM

Edd Robins (6228) wrote:

These days I'd be ashamed to call myself a liberal OR a conservative. In the end, they'll all say whatever it takes to get what they want... and if they can't get the bucks to pay for what they want out of you and me they'll borrow money from China to get it. It don't matter what they SAY they're gonna do, 'cause they're a pack of goddam liars.

I'll undoubtedly vote for Paul and then listen to my friends tell me I wasted a vote. Never mind that I think they wasted theirs.

President's Day is coming up this month....that's the day Obama walks out of the White House and if he sees his shadow we get another year of unemployment.

Happy voting to ya,
Edd








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2/8/2012 8:10 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

You're right. All of these conservative and liberal politicians that are in the US now are just not thinking logically enough (IMO). Too bad I can't do anything about it.










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2/10/2012 12:47 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

Conservatives are two-faced sob's, they do the opposite of what they say. They're phony, lying, careless c---s-----s. Exactly what the liberals are but what sets the liberal apart is his "holier than thou attitude" of superiority. They pretend to know better but never live up to it.







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2/10/2012 5:47 PM

Chris Pinto (24464) wrote:

Agreed!

> The 2-Party System needs to go

> End the "FED", immediately!

> "Obama-care".....GOODBYE!

> We need people that will uphold the Constitution, ALWAYS! We didn't beat the British just so we can go BACK to Tyranny????!!!!

> The Government needs to FEAR the PEOPLE

> Extremely limited terms for congress (2-yrs, or 4yrs MAX!)

> This "New World Order" crap needs to die!

> Everyone needs to go....NOW! Time to impeach all of the scum out of our Government, and start over! People seem to have forgotten what the Constitution is all about.

I've actually asked high school kids today if they know the US Constitution, and if they're taught it, study it???.....The answer I usually get is "NOPE!" or "Nah, not really"...

Best part:

My friend's kid came home a few weeks ago, and told my friend that his teacher said that "All you kids really need to study as hard as possible, and make as much money as possible when you get older, so, poor people don't have to work, and more welfare programs can be added." This teacher said that "It was good for the Country"

Well, my friend's kid had a bit of brains, and actually walked out of the class. Then, later that day, my friend went to visit that same teacher.....It was not a pleasant conversation.....(for the teacher) hehe :)





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2/16/2012 1:16 PM

Dale Lindsey (8281) wrote:

Adrian,

How about: "What bothers me about conservatives is that they're usually illiterate hicks with three teeth in their head"

Of course, that's not true, but neither is what you said. I actually meet a whole lot of people from all walks of life who hold a broad spectrum of political ideologies. If we are going to discuss politics here (against the rules, but I won't tell if you won't ;) ), why don't we agree to stay away from stereotypes.

I frankly believe that calling someone a "conservative" or a "liberal" is demeaning and a barrier to true communication. Once you label somone, you believe you know everything there is to know about that person and you start talking to the stereotype rather than the person. Most people are capable of entertaining a range of ideas which could be considered "liberal" or "conservative" depending on the situation.

-Dale



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2/11/2012 12:43 PM

Chris Pinto (24464) wrote:

LOL, yeah.....

"Socialism": Great idea, until you run out of other people's money!

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2/15/2012 9:22 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

Ron Paul is interesting and I like some of his ideology. Some not so much. Some seems a little radical to me. I love his view on the Constitution and abolishing the Patriot Act. He has great insight but I dont believe any greater than many. The difference being that many turn a blind eye to such things as the few view it with eyes wide open.







He wont get elected but in the unlikely event that he would it wouldnt make much difference. Its like putting an engine into a car with no axils. It might run better but where are you really going to go? Can we really put one guy into a broken system and expect things to change? Government will continue to grow, as will deficits. Civil liberties will continue to erode and wars will be waged. Personally I think the Euro is going to collapse plunging the world further into recession. The dollar will get devoured by inflation. Right now everyone is getting their income tax returns. What I dont understand about this is how people are getting back more than they paid in. It doesnt make any sense to me. I know that view probably wont make me Mr. Popularity but I dont think anyone should get more back than they paid in. But, it happens all the time. If it were me as President Im going flat tax. Then the rich would pay more and the poor would pay less. Your tax form would be one page. Most of the IRS employees would be no longer needed. If everyone paid you would be looking at a tax rate of somewhere between 10-15%. Ever look at the tax code? The tax code is three inches thick and there is another 18 feet of paperwork explaining it. People complain about the unfairness but ask yourself this: If you could pay $100 and get a $1,000 in return wouldnt you do it? Thats what big business and special interests do with the tax code. They buy money, that is they pay to have the tax code in their favor. Truth be told the Government are just puppets in big business and special interests. Whats it matter who we vote for? We havent had a good leader since Regan. It would take a guy like Regan to make any difference and I dont see any Regans on either side. Personally I wont be voted. It just seems like a huge waste of time anymore. I have a small business so I need to work anyway so I can afford to pay my taxes while the small business owner here on a work visa from Pakistan works his business tax free. Yet another thing that would be corrected under the Magaro Administration.

Sorry for the rant,

Dave

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2/16/2012 12:00 AM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

There's really no telling what could happen. You
have to look at all of the facts and the factors.
You may think you know, but you're only one
person.

The problem I have with the media is that they're
basically saying that we should just all think
about the worst. It's annoying which is why I
don't pay attention to it anymore.

I'm probably going to head somewhere else when I
get the chance.




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2/16/2012 7:35 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

"There's really no telling what could happen. You have to look at all of the facts and the factors. You may think you know, but you're only one person."

Part of owning a business is predicting the future. Business owners "project" things. I AM expecting the Euro to collapse and a deepening of global recession. I DO expect the dollar to get eaten alive by inflation. I AM positioning my business for yet another down turn. Now I could be wrong in all that. I sure hope that I am wrong. Yes I am only one person but employees, a daughter, and other businesses all depend on my ability to survive in my business. I'm looking at all the facts and factors and I don't see a bright sunny future. Fuel prices continue to escalate that's not going to help matters. We have a nice little bubble right now. I just don't see it lasting.

Dave



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2/16/2012 8:12 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

Speaking of bubbles.......Wasn't Clinton's economic model the foundation for the bubble that burst in Bush's second term right before the election? Canada wants to sell the USA oil but Obama doesn't want it.....I guess some of his friends would lose money if a pipeline were built.....The drug culture is causing death and destruction, yet Obama's people are chasing Amish milk producers and his wife's food police are confiscating kids' lunches in kindergarten.......Where is the common sense in all of this, where's the planning of Obama and his administration, his select group of czars and magicians? Where are the heroes and visionaries today? By all accounts, not in Washington or Canada or Europe or the West! One day these liberals and conservatives will answer to Allah or Yoko Ono!



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2/16/2012 11:18 PM

Adrian Dupree (4929) wrote:

I do agree with you. It's seems likely to me that
the world will end up in a worse state. At the
same time, there's still a small possibility that
things may turn around (I would never bet on it
though).

This relates somewhat to the cold war era.
"Experts" were firm in their predictions about
"the end of the world." Funny thing is, they were
wrong!

On a similar subject, the Great Depression of the
United States actually had a rise in life
expectancy. Why? Partly because healthcare was
advancing and fewer cars were on the road. Point
is, we can't say how badly this will affect us as
individuals. Heck, the rate of heart attacks might
go down!! Less food means less obesity am I right?

Anyway...
I think I'm done discussing. I really feel stupid
worrying about something that I can't control.


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2/16/2012 12:57 PM

Dale Lindsey (8281) wrote:

Hey Dave,

I hate to say this, but you probably wouldn't get any of those things through Congress. Like you said yourself, one person can only do so much - even a president.

I honestly don't think that Ronald Reagan, if he were running for the first time today, could get the nomination from either party. He would be considered too liberal for Republicans and too conservative for Democrats. And remember, he did increase the federal deficit by a huge amount (there are claims the increase under his administration was the largest of any president on a percentage-wise basis but I haven't had time to validate those claims). Of course, it's a different world today and I don't know if Reagan would be the right leader for it. The US needs a different kind of leader for today, but I don't see that person as getting the nomination by either current major party.

Interestingly, I was just reading posts from people in other countries whose taxes are so simple, they don't have to fill out anything at all. All of their information is sent to the government, and the government sends them a statement. They can simply sign it or challenge it if it is incorrect, or they have some special circumstance (rare). In the same forum, though, most people agreed that this could never happen in the US because there is a whole industry based on the complexity of our tax laws. Hmmm - is supporting an industry that serves no practical use socialism or capitalism? Depends on which side you are on...:)

It would be nice if the real answers to complex questions were as simple as political sound bytes.

-Dale



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2/16/2012 3:41 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

I am aware of Regan running up the debt. But, what followed was a period of prosperity in which there was debt reduction. Regan was a great leader but not without fault. However, he did manage to unite Democrats and Republicans in Congress to get things pushed through. Thats why I say we need a guy like Regan. Thats what a good leader does leads.

"I hate to say this, but you probably wouldn't get any of those things through Congress. Like you said yourself, one person can only do so much - even a president."

You're right, but I like to dream of what could be, and not what they are.

Dave



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2/18/2012 10:17 AM

Dale Lindsey (8281) wrote:

Dave, I'd have to disagree about the period of
debt reduction, unless you are talking about that
one year or so that Clinton managed to come out
ahead. When you research this, you have to be
careful about how the numbers are tabulated. Some
people count debt as percentage of GDP. If you do
it that way, there is some debt reduction before
Reagan and during Clinton years, but in true
dollars, according to what I have found, there has
been no true reduction since the '50s except that
brief Clinton one that went away the next year.
There may have been some deficit reduction,
but that's because Reagan's deficit was so huge at
first, that he was able to reduce it in the later
part of his term. A deficit is still a debt
increase, though.

The real point I was making was that, although you
may be right in that Reagan's spending may have
contributed to the prosperity that followed (I
have no proof one way or another), the mood of
Congress is very different today. Obama is
basically being told "balance the budget or get
out." Would Reagan have prospered in this
environment? I don't know. Is there someone out
there who could keep everyone (or almost everyone)
happy? I doubt it.



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2/19/2012 4:43 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

"Dave, I'd have to disagree about the period of debt reduction, unless you are talking about that one year or so that Clinton managed to come out ahead. "

Yes I was talking about the Clinton surplus. Let us not forget the Cold War either. That was one of the biggest contributing factors to Regan increasing the debt. We won the cold war because of the arms race that Russia realized they could not win.

Dave



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2/20/2012 8:58 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

Up in Canada we had the Conservative government of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, one of Reagan's biggest supporters. Mulroney was cutting deficits by leaps and bounds, even Superman was left scratching his head. As it turned out the cuts were only made possible because of a change in the accounting procedures used. In some cases Brian was spending $500 million but reporting it as $50 million....he was in effect capitalizing the expenditure over 10 years instead of one as had been done before he came to power... The trick used was to change the interpretation of capital expenditures. What were expenses and reported on a yearly basis became capital expenditures spread out over 10, 15, and even 20 years. It's kind of easy to see how one could report surpluses under those conditions.



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2/21/2012 5:26 PM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

They took a poll last year, 95% of Americans could not even name
the Canadian PM. Thats the s--- that will come to haunt us. We
think we all important, and rest of the world should subjugate.

Sigh...



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2/21/2012 6:31 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6822) wrote:

That's funny because I took my own poll and it showed that 95% of American schools don't teach what students are supposed to learn. The other 5% of schools are private institutions where politicians' children go to become the future leaders of an even more dumb-downed population. Very sad indeed.........................

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2/16/2012 8:37 PM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

Ron Paul is a remedial pecker-wood.

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2/16/2012 9:08 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

Not when it come to the Constitution. Have you ever read the Patriot Act? If you haven't might want to give it a glance. I have to deal with it first hand because I operate ATM machines. I lose money becaue of it.

Dave

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2/16/2012 9:19 PM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

How many large terrorist attacks have we had since 9/11?

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2/17/2012 2:36 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

What point are you trying to make? You think that the Patriot act foiled dozens of plots against America? 9/11 could have been foiled without the Patriot Act. Furthermore, the Patriot Act should be deemed illegal because it goes against the Constitution. It wasn't the Constitution that failed us on 9/11... it was the Government.

Dave

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2/18/2012 12:43 AM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

No speculation, just the facts please. Without protection measures
those sick Muslim f---s would attack us every single day on the
hour...kind of like we do to them now.

No offense, just my opinion

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2/18/2012 5:34 PM

Dave Magaro (1718) wrote:

No offense taken Chris. I just disagree that's all. 9/11 could have been stopped. Again it wasn't the Constitution that failed us on that day. Furthermore, they win if we give up our freedom and civil liberties.

Dave

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2/19/2012 12:18 PM

Chris Bond II (2657) wrote:

Theres an old saying, a man that gives an ounce of freedom for a
pound of flesh is a fool I believe to there are is a lot of truth to
that. I get angry with these political wars