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• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/26/2009 5:41:51 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: Randy, Have you owned any of the other POD's? I'm asking because I'm wondering if the XT sounds better than the 2.0, or even the X3?? I have a couple of 2.0's- one desktop and one rack mount (Pod pro) w/ a floor controller. I'm not real crazy about the way it sounds live, but it would be nice to have an easy throw down rig...

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 8:47:04 AM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: I'm just about to upgrade my XT Live to an X3 Live. They say the x3 sounds better. The XT sounds great if you use it the right way. The problem with the XT is the cab models. They're in there by default. That's great if you're using a Line 6 cabinet where the specially-made Celestions are very neutral, but I'm using a Marshall 4x12. I had to switch off all cab models, and then it sounded incredible. The effects are top-notch. I thought for 3 years that it didn't have a toe button in the volume rocker pedal. Turns out, you just have to push it really hard the first 10-12 times you use it. It'll switch over to wah. The x3 has about 5 different wahs, where the xt only has 1.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 10:52:48 AM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I didn't know about the switch? I thought that the Wah had to be part of the programming and was activated when you press forward? Then deactivate when you pull back?

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 11:37:34 AM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: I thought so too! It doesn't even indicate this clearly in the manual. I'm a nerd, I read that thing cover-to-cover. It works just like a Crybaby, but you have to step hard. It'll switch from volume to wah. The switch is useless if you're in tweak mode. The first 2 or 3 times, you'll have to step so hard you'll think you're going to break it, then it loosens up a bit over time. That's why I never knew it was there. I stepped on it like a traditional crybaby, and nothing happened. I wrongly assumed it didn't have that function, and used a separate patch for wah, which sucks because there's always a little gap when switching patches.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 11:58:48 AM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: Now I am curious and need to check it out after work. Yeah that gap between patches is awful. I am just lucky that I don't use a lot of Wah Wah anymore. I don't even use it for color. My regular EFX board has a Cry Baby and I use only when I am in the mood or if the song requires it. Funny how the Trem bar and the Wah for me have become non essential in my playing. However I love it there when I do get into that mood.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 12:57:03 PM Charles Ross, Jr (222) wrote: hey i play on them.the sound is very good,but i love my dod/digitech stuff.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 1:24:16 PM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: Yeah, when I heard about it, I ran right home and tried it! Like you, I have a different wah on my board. I got really lucky and picked up a Budda Wah on a trade deal, and it is the sweetest sound you'll ever hear. I use it on a lot of songs, sometimes as just a slow sweep. Also like you, I'm finding myself using the whammy bar less these days.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 1:53:23 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: How does the Budda compare to a Cry Baby? I have one that is about 30 years old and the one on my board that is about 3 years old. Is it the Q of the circuit that is making the difference between the two? Gotta ask as my CB are the Classic Wah sound. Dang Wah Wah have now gotten quite sophisticated.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 1:42:16 PM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: The Budda is much warmer. I have a CB, and it's shrill by comparison. More importantly, the Budda sounds amazing with a clean sound too. It's very expressive without being nasal. I don't use my wah in the traditional boom-chika-wow-wow fashion, but rather a slow sweep through rhythm and slower leads. I'll tuck it all the way back, and bring it forward as I increase my pick dynamics. It's like, well... Budda Butta.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 2:57:59 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: So you are using it more of phasing psuedo flange effect - Gotcha!!! I'll phase it if I am trying to promote that sound you are speaking of - pick dynamics. Cool!!!

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 3:44:19 PM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: Yeah, I guess you could sort of say that. I'm using it as a manual phase, if you will.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 4:39:13 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I think that is why I bought a used roto-vibe. Got it for $80 like new - can't beat that.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 10:50:24 AM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I have played through the other POD's but never owned one. I only own the XT. My problem with POD's are 1) the clean sound and 2) the digitization of the signal. I broke down on the XT as the clean sound was somewhat pure and I could not completely hear the sampling. Over time I can now hear it again and at times it gets irritating. As for live, the XT sounds great through my Marshall. If it goes through a PA, I can still hear the sampling but blow it off cause once everyone is playing, it blends in. As for the sound in general, I like it. On the drive and gain edits, the sound I am looking for comes close. Michael is right about the cabinets. You do need to adjust them but that maybe what I like about it. I can custom tailor the tone that I am seeking and just roll with it. I use the VOX, JCM800, and Fender Blackface sounds. I do want the expansion kit so I can use the bass patches along with the Classic tones. It is an easy throw down option when I rehearse in a small setting. Just plug into the PA and play. Had I been still playing Waikiki like 25 years ago, I would be using the POD. I use to use the Rockman Sustainer module system and just go into the PA for our three member midi band.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 3:02:18 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: The problem I have with the POD 2.0 is that the clean sound won't clean up enough and then the gain sounds don't cut through the mix once the band lays into it. We've played a couple of gigs where we all had to run direct to keep the stage volume really low. For those, I wound up using the POD on a blackface setting and then still using my pedal board. It defeats the purpose of portability, but my Mesa V Twin pedal sounds a lot better then my Pod distortion.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 4:05:08 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: Interesting...when I do pickup gigs with my Dr. buddy the other guitar player uses V-Twin when we rehearse. My Pod (IMHO) sounds better. My patches are not stock. I sat there for hours just tweaking away to get what I wanted. In the long run it is worth. For the short being it can be frustrating but you have to know what sound you want before you start. That is why I want the expansion pack. There is a few more amps that I wanted. I am sure it will be easy to record with. Just gotta do it!

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/27/2009 10:10:21 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: The V Twin doesn't sound better directly into the board, but if I run it thru the the blackface sound, the end result to me is better then the POD distortion. I'm wondering if there were some improvements from the 2.0to the XT & X3....

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 10:08:33 AM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: That one I don't know. I am kind of spoiled with old analog effects so those sounds are my reference point. On my XT, I did alot of tweaking to get the specific sounds I was looking for. I am only familiar with the original pod and it was great for what its worth. However, the XT is miles ahead because of the programmability. Just that ability to adjust, you can really dial in what you are seeking. The other thing I like as well is that they improved on the dynamics. You can hit a note and depending on your attack, you have some dynamic control. This was a major downfall on the original version. The other nice feature is the numerous amp samplings available. I use a JCM800 and they have a sample algorithm that I like. There is also the Marshall Plexi, Brown sound Plexi when he used the Variac, VOX AC30, etc. to give you an idea of the different choices. The original POD had different labels but the XT gets specific in it replication. Also as Michael mentioned, you can choose your cabinets of choice and cabinet miking. Alot of variables to dial in the sound. You gotta be patient however as this not just plug and play gear - well it is if you use stock patches. I am sure the X3 will be even more advanced but for me, it does not justify any type of update at this time as both platforms use the same algorithms. I am sure that the X3 has some different features more advanced than the XT but not worthy of an upgrade at this time.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 2:20:17 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: I just found a used XT Live on Craigs list for $250. Would ya? Should I?.....

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 2:25:07 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: BTW- can you bypass the amp simulation on the XT? That would a cool feature for when you just want to use it for FX only...

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:07:33 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: Yes you can. You would program the amp simulation to be off and you can use the XT just as an effects board. You will have the ability to program up to 4 effects plus wah or volume pedal.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:11:48 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: That's cool. I always wondered why they didn't do that on the 2.0. Makes perfect sense. I think I'll pull the trigger on this tomorrow. They guy has only used it in his house and it has the gig bag with it.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:21:14 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: The gig bag is awesome. I have one and it is very convient. I like my XT and use it with my iPod and AKG 240M headphones. To me there is a lot of flexiblity. Good Luck Dan!!! If you do, I'll try to figure out how I can send you my DG patch.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 5:16:20 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: That would be great! I have the old software for the 2.0. I guess the Pod farm is the newer version. I'll look and see if it's a free download. I wish I would've had the XT when I played the National Anthem at the football games. It would've made my load in much easier up all of those steps. They did make the playoffs though, so maybe I'll be getting it just in time..... I did spend a lot of time tweaking my patches on 2.0, but I could never quite get them there for live stuff. It sounded great in the studio though. In fact, I haven't used an amp for recording in a long time. I think I might also fork out for an M Box Pro Tools package. It sounds like that will handle all my sequencing and recording needs for now. Kind of a drag though, I was getting pretty handy with Garage Band. Of course, all this will have to be approved in the "accounting department";-)

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:37:35 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: If you get the POD farm your XT sounds become a plugin as well. Cool stuff bro!!!

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:35:05 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: Dan - Here are the standard amp patches. Amp Models based on*: Cabinet Models based on*: Line 6® Clean 6x9 Supro® S6616 Line 6® JTS-45 1x8 1961 Fender® Tweed Champ® Line 6® Class A 1x10 Gibson® Line 6® Mood 1x10 Gretsch® 6156 Line 6® Spinal Puppet 1x12 Line 6® Line 6® Chemical X 1x12 1953 Fender® Tweed Deluxe Reverb® Line 6® Insane Line 6® Piezacoustic 2 1x12 1964 Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® Line 6® Agro Line 6® Lunatic 1x12 1960 Vox® AC-15 Line 6® Treadplate 1X15 1962 Supro® Thunderbolt Line 6® Variax Acoustic 2x2 Fender® Mini Twin Reverb® Budda 2001 Twinmaster 2x12 Line 6® Fender® 1953 Deluxe Reverb® 2x12 1965 Fender® Blackface Twin Reverb® Fender® 1958 Bassman® Fender® 1961 Champ® 2x12 1995 Matchless® Chieftain Fender® 1964 Deluxe Reverb® 2x12 Roland® JC-120 Fender® 1965 Twin Reverb® 2x12 1967 Vox® AC-30 Gretsch® 1960 6156 2X12 1967 Silvertone® Twin Twelve Hiwatt® 1973 Custom 100 4x10 Line 6® Marshall® 1966 JTM-45 4x10 1959 Fender® Bassman® Marshall® 1968 Super Lead 4x12 Line 6® Marshall® 1968 Jump Channel 4x12 1967 Marshall® Basketweave with Greenbacks Marshall® 1968 Variac Plexi Marshall® 1987 JCM 800 4x12 1968 Marshall® Basketweave with Greenbacks Marshall® 1996 JMP-1 Matchless® 1996 Chieftain 4x12 1978 Marshall® with stock 70s Matchless® 1993 DC-30 4x12 1996 Marshall® with Vintage 30s Mesa/Boogie® 2001 Dual Rectifier® 4x12 Mesa/Boogie® Mesa/Boogie® Mark IIc+ Roland® Jazz Chorus 120 Mic Models based on*: Soldano 1993 SLO-100 Shure® SM-57 On Axis Supro 1960's S6616 Shure® SM-57 Off Axis Vox® 1961 AC-15 Sennheiser® MD-421 Vox® 1967 AC-30TB Neumann® U-67 Tube Preamp Marshall® 1974X (18W Reissue) Marshall® JCM 2000 w/ Germ Pedal Orange AD30TC Vox® Fawn Non-Top Boost AC30 Dumble® Clean (from POD® 2.0) Soldano SP88 (from POD® 2.0)

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:36:16 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: Here are the effect choices. Effect Models based on*: LA-2A® Compressor Noise Gate Fuzz Face Big Muff Pi® Tubescreamer® ProCo Rat Octavia CS-1 Comp/Sustainer Dynacomp Vetta™ Comp Auto Swell Mutron III Line 6® Sine Chorus Line 6® Flanger A/DA® Flanger MXR® Phase 90 Uni-Vibe Opto Tremolo model from the 1965 Fender® Deluxe Reverb® Bias Tremolo model from 1960 Vox® AC-15 Leslie® 145 Vibratone Auto-pan Boss® DM-2 Deluxe Memory Man EP-1 Tube Echoplex Roland® RE-101 Space Echo Sweep Echo Line 6® Digital Delay Line 6® Stereo Delay Ping Pong Delay Reverse Delay Fender® Deluxe Spring Reverb Fender® Twin Spring Reverb King Spring Reverb Small Room Reverb Tiled Room Reverb Brite Room Reverb Dark Hall Reverb Medium Hall Reverb Large Hall Reverb Rich Chamber Reverb Chamber Reverb Cavernous Reverb Slap Plate Reverb Vintage Plate Reverb Large Plate Reverb Vetta Wah Vox® V847 Wah Custom Vox® V847 Wah Colorsound Wah-Fuzz Maestro® Boomerang Wah Jen Electronics Cry Baby Super Wah RMC Real McCoy 1 Wah Arbiter® Cry Baby Wah Sub Octaves Synth Effect Digitech Whammy Pitch Effect Maestro® Bass Brassmaster Sans Amp Tube Driver Volume (Pre- or Post-Amp Routing options) Post-EQ

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/28/2009 4:18:24 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I would say go for it. You can use the Live XT with an iPod for learning tracks, plug into a board (PA), DI into a recording console and program up the yin-yang. The catch is you gotta want to make the effort to program as most people don't. You can store all you patches via the Line 6 Monkey through USB. Along with upgrades directly from Line 6 if you are registered.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/29/2009 5:14:16 PM Dan Klotz (180) wrote: Well, I picked it up today. I just did a quick run through of the patches. I have to go to their website to see about downloading the software and get to work on editing. Too bad I have a TON of midi sequence editing to do first:-(

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/29/2009 10:50:28 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I will try to figure out how to send you my patches. You can take em or leave um. I wo't be able to do it immediately. When I do I will send it to your email.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 1:43:42 PM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: Hey, feel free to send me those patches if you figure it out!

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 2:27:37 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I will. I have created 20 patches that I use. I tried to emulate David Gilmour's sound, John Jorgenson, Danny Gatton, (I can't remember the others) and my own concoction using the JCM800 which is what I really use.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 3:56:47 PM Michael Laurance (1846) wrote: That's why I'm looking forward to the X3. You run 2 patches at once, in stereo. I don't know if XT patches can be assigned or not. It's worth a shot. I like this, because I've run stereo for years, with different amps for each channel. The sound is much bigger than using just one amp. Since that's a pain in the ass, I got the Duoverb, which was great until I dun-blowed-it-up. I'm thinking about using the amp settings, and using a tube power amp. It'd be nice to have a rack like the big boys! Carvin makes an all-tube amp for $550. Since I can't afford the bit VHT, ENGL, or Marshall power amps, this should do nicely.

• Respond to this Re: For PODLiveXT users.... 10/30/2009 4:37:44 PM Randy Hano (5374) wrote: I used to run stereo - this when I ran my rack. I still have but don't use it much right now. My power amp is a Peavey 50/50 which sounds awesome! I got this baby used for $250.00 about 8-9 years ago. This one is one Feebay for $152.00 as of this writing. http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-Classic-50-50-Stereo-tube-amplifier-EL84power_W0QQitemZ200398023072QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZRSS:B:SRCH:US:101 This thing just sounds great and loaded with 4 - EL84's. It is sad the Peavey name doesn't hold up as well for some of their product line as they do have some gems that they have produced.

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