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Re: guitar practice
1/26/2009 9:52:27 AM
Ken Richardson
(6276) wrote:
I don't think there is a one size fits all method.
If there is a challenging solo or intro, break it down into manageable bits and get it accurate first, bit by bit. You may want to learn it at a low speed, and be sure to get the notes right.
If there is singing and playing involved, I have heard many times to get the singing part down cold before getting too far on guitar.
From my experience, 15 to 30 minutes of practice each day gets better results than say 8 hours on Saturday. The repetition helps you learn the chord shapes and note sequences, and helps develop the ear.
Good luck!!!! |
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Re: guitar practice
1/31/2009 2:19:36 PM
Michael Pankonien
(946) wrote:
+1 on the 30 minutes every day, vs. 8 hours on Saturday practice results. Work and travel often get in the way of my everyday goal, but I have found that I have learned new songs and techniques better at little at a time than all at once. |
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Re: guitar practice
1/31/2009 8:56:53 PM
Randy Hano
(6631) wrote:
I agree with you Ken! 30 min to 1 hour a day keeps the chops together. There won't be immediate growth, but over time there will be significant growth.
Eight hours in one day will promote mental and muscle fatigue unless you are doing it daily! |
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Re: guitar practice
2/2/2009 11:19:24 PM
Chris Pinto
(22326) wrote:
What bothered me was when the guys would show up late, wouldn't "pull their weight", let others clean=up while they're trying to score with chicks...Now, I'm all for trying to get a date, but, howabout you help carry some junk out to the truck, THEN do your thing...
I mean, the things we went through back then....I'd never tolerate that sorta thing now.
Ahhh, memories! LOL
I had formed a Queensryche Tribute band years ago, and luckily, that was one of the last bands I had formed where things sorta went well...The guys were (for the most part) always on time (for the most part) hehe, and all-in-all, not too many problems....
Then, just a few years back, I was a member of an acoustic trio band, (Allman Brothers, Stones, Humble Pie, etc) and that was one of the best times I'd ever had, in a band.
It was just me, my best friend, and his wife...We all worked together, rehearsed every week, hung-out together all the time, we did a great job, no egos, no pressure, we sounded great, and we always had fun! And the gigs were just as fun! That was the best band I'd ever been in! hehe
The acoustic-trio band was so much easier then playing metal back in the 80's (For me, anyway)....Not sure why....Maybe less pressure, Seems like my stagefright has passed as I got older....Maybe because we were very comfortable with each other as musicians? Maybe I'm more comfortable as a player??? I really don't know what it is...Whatever it was, I loved every minute of it.
Chris |
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Re: guitar practice
2/1/2009 9:29:31 PM
Chris Pinto
(22326) wrote:
I remember when I was taking lessons. (mid 80's)..There would be these 8 year old kids blazing through arpeggio runs, playing guitar riffs from bands like Testament, Yngwie, and all these crazy bands... while it was taking me years to get them stupid arpeggios down! LOL
Must be nice to be able to practice for 13 hours a day! I would too, if I had no bills to pay...hehe
It's a "catch 22"
It's like applying for your first Credit Card.
If you don't have CREDIT, you can't get a CREDIT CARD! Well, I don't HAVE a credit card, so, how can I get any credit! (Sounds like a Pink Floyd song) LOL "If you don't eat your meat....ya' can't have any pudding"
Same goes for practicing:
You need to practice to get better, unfortunately, I can't put in hours of practice time each day, that's needed.
Chris |
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Re: guitar practice
2/2/2009 1:07:26 AM
Chris Pinto
(22326) wrote:
Yo Yo Yo, Dale!
Don't pet the sweaty things...uh, I mean, Don't sweat the petty things! LOL
or...go'head and PET the sweaty things....whatever floats yer' boat! LOL
Having fun is what it's all about, bro! :)
Hell, I've accepted the fact that I'll never be as good as some of my guitar heroes, either...(pfff), I don't care...I try to have as much fun as I can while I'm doing it. Hell, I'm happy enough that I can even play the guitar, and create music!
I feel that my guitar abilities are decent (not great) but decent enough for most bands, I can play many of the things that I've always wanted to play, and there are still many things I can not play....And I'm OK with that :) I just try to play as good as I can, practice when I can, and do my best. That's all we can ask of ourselves.
Jammin' with some friends, kickin' back having a few beers....That's what it's all about! :)
Chris |
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Re: guitar practice
2/2/2009 8:13:31 PM
Dale Lindsey
(7850) wrote:
Randy,
Like I said in my post, I don't let things like that bother me now. I just relax and enjoy the ride.
I play electric in the praise band at my church now. I don't make any money, but I only have to play for 15 minutes, so I don't get burned out and I plug my FX pedal right into the PA system, so there's no hauling big cabs around.
Praise music is mainly about getting people to sing along, not about showing off, so the instrumental parts tend to be short and melodic - even I can play them, LOL! Mainly it's about filling in the spaces between verses and choruses.
It's also a pretty forgiving audience. We even get to use chord charts, because we are playing different songs every week, but I try to play by memory anyway, so I don't have to look.
Of course, you can pretty much add anything you want in as long as it doesn't cover up the singing. And we usually just jam as the people are leaving. I'm not too proficient at improvising, so I usually work out the melodies for each of the songs before hand, and the scale, and just play around the melody.
But folks have told me they liked what I play and I have fun, so that's what counts. I had a lot of fun yesterday: I was supposed to start off a song and everybody is waiting for me and I dropped a chart on my pedal and when I bent down to pick it up unplugged my guitar. Luckily out lead singer caught on and started talking about some thing or another while I bent down again and plugged back in. I didn't dare look at the sound booth, because I know they were cracking up! I would have lost it!
-Dale |
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Re: guitar practice
2/3/2009 12:01:44 PM
Dale Lindsey
(7850) wrote:
Yeah, I think the majority of the people didn't even notice, mainly due to Dave's quick uptake on the situation and his distracting everyone's attention. I don't know if he even knew why, but he realized there was a lull in the music, so he started right in with some dialog until I started playing. I'm sure most people thought it was planned.
We were having problems with our sound system that day, and I was playing directly through an amp, so the sound guy couldn't mute me while I plugged in, so there was a big POP! If my brain had been working, I would have just hit my volume pedal, but thinking fast on my feet is not my strong point. I try to relax, but I still get a case of the nerves when things don't go right and I get flustered. Fortunately, the rest of the crew is used to it. They just roll with whatever happens. Hopefully, I will get there eventually. (But I know I will get some ribbing about it at our next practice!)
-Dale |
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Re: guitar practice
2/2/2009 3:06:20 PM
Randy Hano
(6631) wrote:
Granted you are correct Chris. However what one can play is arbitrary. When Yngwie hit the seen, this stuff was like wow - Cool! Same goes for the two handed tapping world. I jumped on arpeggios as it was a new way of playing. I still use it today in my improv style for playing rock, blues, jazz as that item is applicable. With tapping, I forced myself to play with left only as I became to reliant on the two hand technique. After 15 years I have finally added it back to my playing which is cool because I do not over use it anymore.
When Frank Gambale came out and the sweeping trend came, I held off on that technique. I really wanted to play like me and I have all these other styles to learn, so sweeping was put on hold until I had a use for it.
In today's world - the 21st century, we have such a vast amount of resources (Internet, video, phrase samplers, etc.) that it is a little overwhelming today for the old timers. You, me and everyone else who has played for a while are being feed numourous pieces of new innovations that we may have all forgot what we are playing for.
It's true that all these great players use these techniques to death, but can they play other styles? Can they improve using that technique or does everything have to be arranged? Are you trying to play like ____________ (fill in the blank) or are you developing your own playing style.
Just my 2 cents. |
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Re: guitar practice
2/2/2009 8:32:50 PM
Chris Pinto
(22326) wrote:
Yeah, that's true....
Luckily, I have adapted....I have my own style, and it's pretty distinct. And, I'm happy about that. I don't sound like anyone in particular...I have my influences, and you can hear it in my playing, YET, I have my own "voice"...
Sure, when I was learning, I wanted to play like _________(fill in the blank), but, that passed....
These days, my sound is all my own....Kind of a compilation of guys like David Gilmour, Dave Murray (Maiden), and a bit of arpeggio & metal shred thrown in for good measure.
I'm happy! hehe
But, I hear what you're saying...
Chris |
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