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Finding the right note

So you have a good start for a riff, but the next note just doesn't seem to exist. You have tried all of em'. There aren't very many of them. The note just isn't on the fretboard! Hmm... the guitar is not defective..

Eddie Van Halen must have had a fret that you don't have or something...

So what's wrong?
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Re: Finding the right note

4/2/2008 3:16 PM

Alan Roberts (10065) wrote:

Just record what you've got for posterity sake and come back to
it. There's no sense in trying to force it. Any time I try to force a
lick to come together, it ends up sounding that way. It'll come
eventually, if it's meant to be. I've got hours of recordings like
that, that are just bits and pieces of songs. Occasionally, I go
back to them hoping to find something I can salvage. Sometimes
it works and sometimes they remain incomplete. Same with
lyrics. There are volumes of partial lyrics in notebooks in my
music room. It's just part of the process. Sometimes I can work
around it by writing another part of the song and letting that
dictate where it's going. Maybe coming up with a bass line or a
drum part will help. It's a drag, but don't fixate on it and let
yourself get stuck. Write something else.
Peace,
Alan


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4/2/2008 4:19 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6926) wrote:

Could it be that the next note is the same as the previous note?



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4/6/2008 3:51 PM

Kenny Cartman (152) wrote:

well, ...who needs more than one note?

better one good note than a thousand of bad once...



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4/7/2008 2:51 PM

Jon Riley (9697) wrote:

Once upon a time, there was a big raga convention in India where hundreds of sitar players turned up. A big buzz went round when it was discovered that a great guru of the instrument had arrived. He had been living as a hermit and no one had seen him in years.
It was decided that everyone should play in turn in a giant improvisation session. All the players came out with impressive solos, cascades of scales and ornamentation, stretching their technique to the max, in an effort to impress the master.
When it was finally the great man's turn, he was silent for a while, then finally began playing a single note. Just the one note, repeatedly.
Everyone started murmuring among themselves: it looked like the old man had finally lost it; maybe he was getting senile, or all those years in his cave driven him mad...
Eventually someone plucked up the courage to go over to him.
"Excuse me, master. Can you not give us a demonstration of your great skill, from which we might learn? Everyone here has filled this hall with music of the highest intensity, yet you play only a single note. Why is that?"
The old man looked up from his instrument and smiled.
"Ah. They are all still looking for their note. I have found mine."

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4/2/2008 7:40 PM

Rick Payman (10061) wrote:

Having exhausted all other possibilities, the next note must be silence ...

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



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4/2/2008 10:15 PM

Erik Yars (126) wrote:

I usually encounter this problem too, so I start on the first note and just go up or down an octave using a chromatic scale;. That has to work

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4/2/2008 11:48 PM

Bryan Morrison (9786) wrote:

Maybe 'looking for the right note' isn't the answer?
That's letting the fretboard write the riff for you...?

Instead of finding the note, why not make the note?


Hmm.. some interesting thoughts and maybe a revelation just came over you? Perhaps you can do anything; the notes on the fretboard aren't boundaries anymore.. they are tools to express your creativity.

So know you aren't restricted to the notes on the fretboard, but to something a little more complex.

So now what?



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Re: Finding the right note

4/3/2008 5:01 AM

Alan Roberts (10065) wrote:

Timing and phrasing?

Peace,
Alan

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4/3/2008 12:13 AM

Jeremy Henry (323) wrote:

The best thing to do is play the riff then when you get to the part where your blank, play the note that you think fits, if it doesnt sound right wait a little while then try again. Usually I can hear the music in my head as I make it, then I just fit the notes together. I have made up lots of riffs that are very catchy, and most of the time I just played the first part on guitar, then heard the rest of it in my head. really its all about being lucky in a sense you just have to play around with the guitar then find what sounds good at first, then fit the notes together as it sounds in your head. Scales are good starting points because the notes on a scale naturally sound good together. I know its more complex than that so im going to give you this next piece of advice. wait a long time before playing the riff then try and figure out what the note is, sometimes i get stuck and there seems to be multiple notes which sound right but i know that only one note sounds right. I just wait a long time then play the riff again and try one of the notes. I usualy try one note per day, it only works the very first few times you play the song in a day. It can take a few days to find the right note but you'll find it if you just boil it down to the few notes that it can be, then try it one, one day at a time. Hope this helps. One last thing, when you think you've found the note that sounds good, trust your instinct, that usualy is the right note.

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4/3/2008 6:46 AM

Bill North (12505) wrote:

Timing and phrasing as Alan has suggested as well as doubles stops and bends, can significantly change the way we hear notes.

Bill~~~



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4/3/2008 12:12 PM

Terrell Terrell (66) wrote:

do a bend, a pinch harmonic, or add some vibrato to the last note and see.



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4/3/2008 7:09 PM

Ken Richardson (9051) wrote:

Terrell has a point.. you can get notes "in between" the frets with a bend...



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4/3/2008 7:14 PM

Bill North (12505) wrote:

Ken,
Read one post up.
Bill~~~



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4/3/2008 9:08 PM

Ken Richardson (9051) wrote:

I see it... now.. how about a discussion on finding "the next chord" ?

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