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Replacing a Volume Pot

Travis McNeely (776)
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2/18/2007 10:34:41 PM · 45 Views

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I've always had trouble with the volume pot on my favorite guitar and I have finaly made up my mind to replace it. I have in my posession a pot for an old amplifier that I've used for parts to repaire other amps in the past. This pot works just fine. Can I simply sodder this pot into my guitar with no worries? Is there an issue with the application for which the pot is intended? Is there a differance between any volume pot and a guitars pot?

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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 7:01:43 AM
Randy Combs (4943) wrote:

Most guitars use 250k - 500k ohm 1/2 watt pots. If it is in this range it should be ok




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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 12:36:17 PM
Nick Pinder (1032) wrote:

The only thing you have to watch out for is that you use a log pot rather than a linear pot - that way you'll get an even response. Linear pots will make the response all at one end of the travel.

All the best,

Nick




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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
8/15/2007 10:00:06 PM
Jack Schaeffer (2024) wrote:

Nick you've got that backwards, an audio taper pot is not linear and will give you and uneven responce. In other words at 1/2 volume a 500k linear taper pot will be 250k with an audio taper it will be way off.




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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
8/16/2007 7:44:28 AM
Nick Pinder (1032) wrote:

I stand corrected! The point I'm trying to make is that our auditory response is non-linear so a log pot tends to reflect this.


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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 8:22:43 AM
Andy Wood (5104) wrote:

With the pot fully on, you won't notice any difference at all with any
pot you use. The only thing you may find is the volume change is
not very uniform if it is not in the range suggested above. If you are
happy with it, it is fine and won't cause any problems.


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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 4:13:58 PM
David Mackie (10592) wrote:

If it has a higher resistance value than the original pot you may notice some extra treble. It may even get kinda shrill sounding depending on your pickups' design.


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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 10:01:09 PM
John Freed (22) wrote:

this is only a $2-3 item, why fart with it? get a brand new pot that is EXACT replacement. Your time and labor to do job are more valuable then the part so it makes no sense to put in a old part. Also, one post below was off. A log pot means logarithmetic, or, non-linear. Also called audio taper. A linear pot is what you want and it gives a fixed vloume (ohms) change per degree of rotation. Eg. the 50% ohm value will be dead in the middle of rotation. A log does not do that. It resistance vs. degree rotation curve grows "logarithmically", hence a log pot.




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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 10:08:35 PM
Alan Roberts (10000) wrote:

No, he's right in wanting a "log" or audio taper pot. It sounds more
natural as you increase or decrease the volume.
Peace,
Alan






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 10:12:38 PM
John Freed (22) wrote:

thats not what is most production guitars out there, he can do it if he likes, but he may not like it.






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 10:44:51 PM
Shad Tele (2460) wrote:

A linear pot is more intuitive as to what you'd expect a volume knob (or any kind of knob) to do. Changes volume evenly with the turn.

However, a log pot is probably more useful specifically for guitar playing, albeit a little strange to get used to at first - especially for volume roll-ons and roll-offs. A little turn and you're wailing away, a little turn the other way and you're quiet again. Much more convenient for stage use.






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/20/2007 12:01:55 AM
Travis McNeely (776) wrote:

most of the time i only use volume as a quick mute anyway. the thing is, when ever i do so much as to a tiny adjustment, i get a loud crackle and sometimes the sound goes out all together. I inspected the workmanship inside and it seems to be very well soddered, so I'm 100% sure its the pot.








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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/20/2007 12:02:59 AM
Shad Tele (2460) wrote:

You want a log pot, then ;] And everyone's right - they're cheap, just buy a new one!










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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/20/2007 12:11:44 AM
Travis McNeely (776) wrote:

gotcha! thanks!








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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/20/2007 8:16:11 AM
Chester Horton (10270) wrote:

Travis
Quick fix... maybe. Take the control unit or pot in question loose from your guitar. You don't have to disconnect it. Pull it out of the cavity. Then put some clean rags under it between it and the finish. Get yourself a can of contact cleaner(can be gotten from autoparts store or Radio shack) Get the quick drying kind. Now just spray it down inside the pot through any holes you can find while turning the control back and forth. Spray down along the shaft and anyplace you can get some to go inside the pot. Usually this will take care of the problems you have mentioned for quite a while. You eventually will have to replace the pot but this can buy you some time and trouble for now and get your guit up to speed quick.
Let me know if this helps. This is courtesy of Dan Erliwine's book on How to make you electric guitar play like new.








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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
8/15/2007 10:05:44 PM
Jack Schaeffer (2024) wrote:

You could spray it with pot cleaner.






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/20/2007 2:11:11 PM
Alan Roberts (10000) wrote:

Shad, your descriptions of "audio" and "linear" are backwards.
With
a linear pot, when you turn up the volume it will sound wide
open
by the time you get to 3-4, with audio it's a more even
increase,not
mathmatically, but audibly. Check the pots in your guitars and
see if they have an "A" or an "L" suffix on them.
Here's a quote from the Gibson website:
"Pots are available in various ohm ratings; 25K, 250K, 300K,
500K and 1 meg ohm pots are the most common in guitar
wiring. They're available in linear taper, which works at a 1:1
ratio, or in audio taper, which has a special logarithmic ratio.
Guitars usually use audio taper, because our ears don't hear
changes in volume in a linear fashion as you might expect. As
the volume increases, a greater change in signal is required to
perceive a smooth transition. Using a guitar's control knob
settings as an example, the actual change in volume between 2
and 3 is much less than the change between 7 and 8".
Peace,
Alan






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
8/15/2007 11:16:25 AM
Mac McCoy (532) wrote:

I'm bringing this out of the history to ask a question. Its stated that Gibson normally uses the log pots.

Does Fender use the linear pots? My strat is what I'm used to and my Heritage apparently had the log pot.

This is definitely taking some getting used to, as I can't seem to get that quiet rythm backing volume without a lot of adjustment.






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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
8/15/2007 2:25:30 PM
Alan Roberts (10000) wrote:

All the major guitar companies use audio taper pots.
Occasionally some guitar makers will use a linear pot for the
tone control(s), but it's rare.
You should be able to identify which type and value you have by
visually inspecting them. Most pots have that information
stamped or printed on them for just that purpose; identification.
Audio pots will have an "A" or sometimes "LOG" written on them,
and linears will have an "L". These letters will usually be found
paired with the numeric value of the pot (250K, 500K, etc) which
is the resistance. Don't confuse these numbers with the source
code, which will be a much longer number that identifies the
maker and the date of manufacture.
If you're having trouble getting good tone at low volume, you
might want to consider having a treble bleed circuit installed. It's
a simple mod that will sometimes solve the problem.
There are lots of sites on the web with information on
identifying pots, source codes, values, etc. And also on wiring
schematics for typical guitars and the suggested values of the
components. You can even find mods,, such as a treble bleed,
on many sites dedicated to guitar wiring and modification. A few
of my favorites are the Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio and EMG web
sites, although there are many, many more.

Peace,
Alan




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Re: Replacing a Volume Pot
2/19/2007 11:56:04 PM
Travis McNeely (776) wrote:

that DOES make sense...haha!


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