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Many Lessons Have Disappeared

Anyone else notice that a ton of lessons have been pulled off the site. My guess would be copyright issues. I guess they gotta do what they gotta do. My only gripe is that they could've posted a notice telling everyone what they were doing and why.
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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 12:20 PM

Bryan Morrison (9786) wrote:

Alot of 'noters didn't have a problem when tab sites started getting tore down. Everybody uptook the "learn it by ear" position. Now that it's affecting Wholenote it sounds like most are playing a different tune. .. (heheh)

The whole music industry is slowly removing its future musicians to make money from by taking away there ability to learn to play. When I was 13-14 I was pulling up tabs and learning a new song a day. Now my little brother is in the same boat but instead all of his favorite song tabs have been removed from existance. And most of them can't be baught anyways.

Some may claim that there will be a Darwin affect.. those who are going to be good anyways are going to make it anyways. But it's taking away the fun of learning the guitar for the first time.. taking away some of the more charismatic ones and leaving the stiffs that write music from theory instead of from the heart. (or just for the fun of it)

Of course there will always be exceptions..

I predict music will cease to become and art in the future.. slowly becoming a corporate tool to make money and nothing more.



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 4:01 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

Very well stated, Bryan. Keep in' out the tunes and lessons and don't let this "set-back" or the complacency (sp?) and sub-level(s) of integrity discourage you.

Charles Gasci told me once that inspite of whatever obstacles or personalities get in the way of teaching others, he would not stop giving. (Those aren't his words; but the gist).

Now I'm getting angry, so I'm posting this as is, if I am not sabotaged from posting, which I have been. It takes all kinds to make the world go round; I hope to keep spinning it in the right direction (if I can help it), inspite of slowing down.

Keep up the good work and life goes on and keep hackin' out the tunes.

Sincerely, Carla



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 5:12 PM

Bill North (12505) wrote:

>>[i] Alot of 'noters didn't have a problem when tab sites started getting tore down. Everybody uptook the "learn it by ear" position. Now that it's affecting Wholenote it sounds like most are playing a different tune. .. (heheh)[/i]

I don't feel that it's affecting Wholenote that much at all Bryan.
[i]
The whole music industry is slowly removing its future musicians to make money from by taking away there ability to learn to play. When I was 13-14 I was pulling up tabs and learning a new song a day. Now my little brother is in the same boat but instead all of his favorite song tabs have been removed from existance. And most of them can't be baught anyways.

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When I learned guitar back in the 50's we all read music notation, if one didn't learn "by ear" That method produced some of the greatest guitarists we've seen so don't give up just cause TABS aren't "widely" available. After all one can still pass them out of the sight of the governing bodies.

[i]
Some may claim that there will be a Darwin affect.. those who are going to be good anyways are going to make it anyways. But it's taking away the fun of learning the guitar for the first time.. taking away some of the more charismatic ones and leaving the stiffs that write music from theory instead of from the heart. (or just for the fun of it)

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I'm gonna leave that statement alone and just say that I agree it may be less fun. Charisma or lack of it has nothing to do with the easy aquisition of TABs.


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I predict music will cease to become and art in the future.. slowly becoming a corporate tool to make money and nothing more.

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Too late for that prediction, Bryan. That happened around 15 years or so ago.


My advise is not to complain, but rather to spend that energy TABing muisc for others and creating an underground means of distributing them.

Later, old timer!

Bill~~~



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 5:41 PM

Alan Roberts (10065) wrote:

I was just about to respond to Bryan's post when I read yours. Since
your response is already almost verbatim of what I was thinking, I'll
just add this to it:
"Blaming the lack of free tablature for the decline of guitar playing
or music in general is like blaming starvation and malnutrition on
the lack of free food."
C'mon Bryan, I've read enough of your posts to know you're way to
intelligent to really believe that!
Peace,
Alan



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/21/2007 11:42 AM

Dale Lindsey (8281) wrote:

Yes, there will always be great musicians, it will just be harder for them to make a living that way. That has nothing to do with tab or anything like that, but rather a decline in public appreciation for musicianship. It's a shame that the era that someone is born in determines how much his or her talents will be worth, but I suppose it has always been true.

Then again, modern technology has opened up so many new possibilities that I think things are much better than they were when I was young in many ways. As far as learning to play a cover tune, try playing a lick on a turntable over and over again to learn it, sometime! I now have software that will slow a passage down without changing the pitch and even show you the notes played on a piano scale!

And the internet has allowed musicians to have their work heard by people who never would have gotten a chance to hear them before. Heck, even I have posted music on this website. Just think, poor unlucky souls all over the world have been subjected to my screechings! I never would have gotten that kind of coverage in the past.

So I guess for every door that closes, another one opens. All I can say is - if you want tabs, get them now while you can (yes there are still sites up). I have filled my hard drive with every song I think I might ever learn to play, just in case I can't figure one out myself.

-Dale

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 10:44 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

Marty, the site administrators DID post a notice about it. See my post up a ways for the link, or check the WholeNote forum for the recent post by Chris Sung.

;^)

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 11:23 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

All they need to do is move to the site base out of Russia where these NMPA restrictions cant be upheld. But I dotn think anybody cares that much. Ultimate-Guitar.com FTW!!!!!!!!
1111!!!!!!!

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/22/2007 12:16 AM

Bob Kent (10857) wrote:

For the most part, my faves were uneffected.

Lotta good stuff here, still....

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/22/2007 12:55 AM

Inactive Member wrote:

Well all that was deleted was in violation
National Music Publishers Association(US) copyright laws. Meaning all lessons containing copyrighted music that can't be reproduced in anyway or form including the software this site uses to create lessons.

Which is wierd because I thought I read an article where this had been over-turned.

However there are sites that can avoid this obstruction of artistic presentation by working out of countries not under the law of the NMPA. Including sites in Russia like Ultimate-Guitar.com. .

We are in the stone-age of the internet. Restrictions and laws are only going to get worse as time passes.

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/22/2007 3:55 PM

Adriano Parmiggianno (6926) wrote:

Really liked your version of "I'm Torn Down", great vocals too.

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/23/2007 1:18 AM

Charles Gacsi (42523) wrote:

The lessons that were removed from general viewing, are still there in the authors list of lessons. They have just been depublished. If you re publish there will be a warning message flashed to you.

Charlie

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