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Many Lessons Have Disappeared

Anyone else notice that a ton of lessons have been pulled off the site. My guess would be copyright issues. I guess they gotta do what they gotta do. My only gripe is that they could've posted a notice telling everyone what they were doing and why.
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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/13/2007 9:35 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

My question would be this: WHO pulled them off the site?

This program does not control itself.

It's amazing what changes take place in the course of my sitting at one computer once I've taken my seat and a few breaks to rest my wrists between the time I spend on this site.

Is it the silent, sneaky type?

Or is it "automatic?"

It's amazing how those who worked hard and contributed so much can have their hard work "snatched" in one fell swoop. I think it's totally screwed up.

It's as if no one has any contol over the website they helped build and it's pathetic!!!

I'm truly sorry this happened. It's crap!!!

I'm even being edited as I type, it seems, anyway when I look back on what I typed part of a word is missing that I was sure I typed.

I have no idea how one would find out, either. I'm sure someone else will be able to at least give some ideas on the procedures (some of the Veterans to this site).

Carla

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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/13/2007 10:08 PM

Bill North (12505) wrote:

Carla,
The most likely cause is that the author removed the lessons. Sometimes people make their lessons "unpublished" while they update or rewrite them and then "republish" them when they are completed. Other times people remove their lessons before abandoning their memberships.

Marty,
Do you remember the author of the lessons? If you do try abd PM the author and see if he or she archived it. I tried to use a "web archival" of Wholenote and there is an security measure which prevents any of the internal archiving of the site from working.

Bill~~~



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/19/2007 10:57 PM

Bruce Maag (15581) wrote:

Nope, I didn't pull mine!

It was probably as Carla said...

"Copyright Issue" and WN yanked them. This site is certainly not automatic... the owners simply don't mind it much anymore but do keep it up and running... maybe because it was once the hot guitar website.

A lot of work went into those lost lessons, but at least it was so long ago it's not so painful. What sucks is those who would like to learn from them, will never be able to now.

With that, I probably will not come back to this unpopular place anymore. But it was fun while it lasted.

Yup, what they did hurts a bit, but let it be said... let it be done!

`B`



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Re: Many Lessons Have Disappeared

6/20/2007 8:26 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

Bruce (et al.), Chris Sung posted a few days ago about a cease and desist order filed against the site that required the removal of many lessons. This happened to ActiveBass many, many years ago. I'm frankly surprised that it's taken this long for it to happen here.

Just hope you come back long enough to read this! :)

Send your email addy to my inbox (if it's not on your homepage) so we can say "howdy" off site once in a while.

;^)

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FRIG!

6/14/2007 2:16 AM

Anthony Holden (9426) wrote:

I got hit bad! I had '2' lessons in the Top 10 most viewed, and one of them was in user ratings. '6' or more of my lessons got the yank.

I've noticed some lessons are still up when clearly, a song title (that's copyrighted) is in the lesson's title. And yet, my one beginner's acoustic lesson had the intro to a tune at the end, and it got yanked! I smell something funny.





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Re: FRIG!

6/14/2007 2:21 AM

Anthony Holden (9426) wrote:

Actually, I can re-publish back the lessons since they are still in 'my music'. It's possible that a hacker was involved?

Anyway, I'm not bothering to re-publish them. They were taken down for whatever reason and I'll just let it be.



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Re: FRIG!

6/20/2007 3:52 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

Anthony and all of you who put so much hard work into this site to make this the renowned, nearly all-inclusive music site for musicians of all levels:

It's a crying shame that there are people that can't respect the hard work and willingness to put the time in to share their hard work to help others in their own endeavors that those up and coming can share theirs and on and on.

I think "tradition" may be on the endangered list.

I hope all of you still have copies of your work or can find a way to retrieve all of your lessons from the Archives.

From there, all I can say is may you all achieve your goals and continue to help others achieve theirs and as McCartney sang: "Let It Be."

Thanks to all of you for the lessons I have been able to incorporate into my own late night practice time, far from quality, before I joined. I think lots of us got pulled into the mire or sabotaged. Perhaps this site became over populated, or we all just lost sight of what we initially joined WN for.

Best wishes to all of you and thanks again for all of your best intentions.

Sincerely, Carla



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Re: FRIG!

6/21/2007 6:06 PM

Bruce Maag (15581) wrote:

The lesson files are still in the members (mine and all others who's where yanked), library, why I don't know, unless WN left them for editing. Thing is I can't edit the files at all without taking away what they were meant to be.

At least they didn't completely destroy a ton of hard work, that took many hours to complete. Also since it is WN's composer tool that I used to create these lessons, there is no way I know of to move them else where. They won't play unless they are run using the composers code.

Thanks for the thoughts, and as I said earlier, they were up for a few years, so there are many who did get something out of them :)

`B`



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Re: FRIG!

6/21/2007 10:01 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

That's what counts--those who were able to benefit. You can always print them from the library files can't you? I'm not good with this program, but you undoubtedly are. Don't lose them forever, just incase this program itself became obsolete or something happened to this program for WN. Take Care and keep making more lessons as time allows, Bruce.

Carla



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Re: FRIG!

6/22/2007 6:17 PM

Bruce Maag (15581) wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts on this, and while pulling the lessons is a sad thing for those who want to learn, it actually did me me favor, because I was spending a pretty penny every year for the links to my server space.

The majority of my lessons included bios, pics, etc, of the guitarist they were about. That was sort of my contribution here. And again, they have been up for some time, which means many folks "DID" benefit from them. That means a lot to me, because it's all about giving back to the younger guitar players. I was taught by others, and this site let me pass it on. Too bad the copyright thing came along, but that's the way it goes.

I don't consider what we do here (concerning tabbing copyright material), breaking any laws, because neither I nor WN profits from it, but again, it's what the law is now.

Anyway, for the betterment, and because WN DIDN"T yank all copyright stuff, I did... I took all my lessons down to keep things cool on all sides. There are still many lessons here which people can learn from, and learn quite well that don't have an artist name on it. Charlie G's lessons come to mind (very good stuff), and he has contributed immensely here. The man should be given a trophy :)

To answer your question, yes I have printed a few of my tabs, so if WN deletes the library, I'll still have some memories of the good old times I spent on that composer!

Keep on a pickin and a learnin

`B`



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Re: FRIG!

6/23/2007 1:11 AM

Charles Gacsi (42523) wrote:

Dear Bruce,

I just saw your post. Thank you.Now I'll have trouble getting my head to go thru the door.

I've been working on a couple of things. An additional chord solo on Londonderry Air. Different key and voicing. I'm leaving the other one still up.

My back keeps giving me trouble from that jar I took stepping off of the curb.

I was writing a bit about my life and included people close to me. I sent a copy to my sister a couple of weeks ago because there was something that I needed to tell her. She read it. . I must have sensed that she did not have that much longer on this bucket. She died thursday the 21st, however I did get the message over to her in time. I feel lucky about that.

She died in her sleep. That was the best for her.

Knowing that someone close to you has died is for the living to feel and rationalize. So if you have something to say to someone, do it now while they are alive and understand what you have communicated otherwise you may regret opportunity passed you by.

Take care friend.

Charlie

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