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how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...

Kamren Derrickson (44)
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2/24/2007 12:48:13 AM · 44 Views

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is this possible if so how? thanks in advance

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Re: how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...
2/24/2007 4:44:06 AM
Jon Riley (9692) wrote:

Depends what you mean by symmetrical. (You'd better be careful, or Andy Fake will be stomping all over this thread... although us being careful wouldn't stop him...)

The minor pentatonic is not a symmetrical scale anyway. In half-steps, it goes 3-2-2-3-2.

Why do you want it symmetrical? It's not exactly a difficult scale as it is. Normal tuning makes it pretty easy.


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Re: how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...
2/24/2007 5:35:50 AM
Kamren Derrickson (44) wrote:

well of course its easy, but say i want to tap a melody in that key on the third string, if i didnt even have to change tuning how would i move my fret/tapping hand to get it to stay inor pentatonic?


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Re: how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...
2/24/2007 6:14:55 AM
Jon Riley (9692) wrote:

Still not quite sure what you're asking.
Whatever the tuning, whichever way you play a melody, you need to know where the notes of the scale are.
Can you rephrase your question, or give a more detailed example?


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Re: how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...
2/24/2007 12:59:39 PM
Kamren Derrickson (44) wrote:

ok..... i tap on the 12 fret of the first string, which pulls off to 5 and then i hammer on 8 (shut up i know it isnt original lmao), this has the same intervals on the second string as well so i guess what im askin is what is the tap pattern that would stay in Am penta. but i could use on the 3/4/5 strings that both go from 5th-7th instead of 5th-8th....

the problem im having is im tapping out that pattern on strings 1&2 then i go to a 12-5-7 pattern on the third and it doesnt sound right, and i dont know whether i should move my tap hand or a fret or somethin with my fret hand.

thanks in advance sorry for the retardedly worded question


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Re: how to change tuning to make minor pentatonic symmetrical...
2/25/2007 5:04:22 AM
Jon Riley (9692) wrote:

OK that's a lot clearer.
Interestingly you say the 12-8-5 pattern sounds good on the 2nd string too. But the 12th fret 2nd string is not part of A minor pentatonic (it's a B note).
Whereas 12-7-5 on string 3 is all A minor pentatonic. (G-D-C)

I think what's happening is that that pattern on the top 2 strings forms chord arpeggios - that's why they sound good, not because they belong in the scale.
On string 1, you're getting the notes E-C-A (12-8-5), which is an Am triad.
On string 2, 12-8-5 gives you B-G-E, which is an Em triad.
On string 3, 12-7-5 gives G-D-C - which is a Gsus4 if anything. It probably feels like there's too big a gap from 12 to 7.

You'll probably get the sound you're after (and only you can say what sounds "good" - it's a matter of taste ;-)) by stretching to fret 9 with your left and tapping 12, so you get 12-9-5. This is all A minor pent, and also gives you G-E-C, which is a C major triad.
Alternatively, 9-7-5 will work (E-D-C, plain scale run).
And you might like the sound of 11-7-5, F#-D-C, a D7 arp. Or you might not... ;-)
Also on string 3, try 11-8-5, F#-Eb-C, a diminished arp (jazzy).

On strings 4 and 5, I guess you'd like 10-7-5, which gives a minor pent lick on each string. (C-D-G and G-E-D respectively).


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