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Hide Glue Formula?

My father gave me his glue formula,regretably, I have lost it, we moved! I think it was ,1 package of Knox, 2 or 3 parts water, and 1/2 asprin tablet. I would welcome any comments on this! I would especially like to hear from Mr. Wendler, as he lives near me, same state anyway! Thank all of you in advance! Bob
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1/27/2003 12:17 PM

Jeremy Ledford (14379) wrote:

get a horse. main ingredient. hehe. a good substitute is polyurethane glue.

germ

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1/27/2003 12:27 PM

Bob Goforth (94) wrote:

I want to keep the option of unglueing things, lol!

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1/27/2003 3:11 PM

Chester Horton (10480) wrote:

Bob
You can buy hide glue from Stewmac.com I am pretty sure. Hide glue is made from animal parts I think so the formula you have must be a substitute.
Chet



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1/27/2003 6:07 PM

David Mackie (11068) wrote:

Chet, Knox gelatin is made from pretty much the same animal parts, so I think Bob's dad may have been onto something.



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1/28/2003 1:53 PM

Chester Horton (10480) wrote:

uggg. Do the girls know that what they eat for their nails is made from horse hooves hahahaha.
Well every day you learn something is a good day
Thanks
Chet



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1/28/2003 3:30 PM

Nadya Vega (1304) wrote:

LOL, Chet :-)
Worse things have been done in the name of beauty, unfortunately.
-Nadya-

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1/27/2003 5:34 PM

Dude Absher (4646) wrote:

Bob Hi:

Franklin Liquid Hide Glue -Ready to use in liquid form-Can be removed with a hot knife.

Behlen Ground Hide Glue -Stronger than liquid hide glues,Can be removed with a hot knife .Granulated for dissolving in warm water.

Hope this helped

Dude

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1/28/2003 8:36 AM

Bob Goforth (94) wrote:

Dave,one if Dads hobbies was glueing old violins back togather, he started that in the 1930s,he knew something about hide glue i dont, just not sure what! lol



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1/29/2003 9:08 AM

Dave Wendler (2201) wrote:

I use standard granulated hide glue. I wouldn't be surprised if your "formula" works well. The only thing you can do is to try it out on some scrap spruce/maple.

The critical issue with hide glues is bringing them to tempurature. 140F to 150F is as hot as you want to go. Should have the consistency of real maple syrup...pretty thin.

For the dried granulated stuff, I cover with cold tap water(some will say use distilled) until it has absorbed all it can...then add a dash more water and heat to temp. You can start the heating process in your microwave, and if you have a good meat thermometer, time some equal sized batches to bring to working temp. Works great. OR, you can use one of those potpourri pots from Wal-mart...about $10...although they work better at holding temp than bringing up to temp. I fill mine with hot water and leave it on when doing major gluing, while mixing up small batches of glue in the bottom of cut off aluminum beer cans....you can set these in the hot water to hold at working temp.

Please do experiment with the gelatin and aspirin...and let us know how it works for you.

My guitars are assembled with Titebond, btw. I use hide glue on broken headstocks, bridge reglues, and of course violins.

Dave

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1/29/2003 9:29 AM

Bob Goforth (94) wrote:

I have to make a couple of bridge clamps,Dave W., then its glue time, i'll keep you posted on the formula. Dad had been glueing instruments for 65 years or so, so must work. I have seen old hide glue formuals with acetic acid and alum, but not asprin, but asprin is a acid, go figure!



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1/30/2003 8:45 AM

Dave Wendler (2201) wrote:

You will need a minimum of three clamps, and a clamping block to spread the pressure on the inside of the guitar. Those "cam" clamps don't work all that well, btw....

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