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Story-line Albums

Jon Luke (238)

Guitar Artists Forum · 2/23/2002 5:35 PM
Anyone know of any albums with related songs?

Something similar to Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and the Who's "Tommy"...

I am going to be involved in writing something like this which will have theater style performances...
Kind of like a rock operetta; it will be a stream of songs of varying styles with the lyrics of each song being a different part of the story...

Being on a tight time frame, I'd like to listen to other albums that were made like this, just to give me a little insight on the effort as a whole.

Anyone?
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2/23/2002 5:45 PM

Chris Pinto (24466) wrote:

Jon,

I HIGHLY recommend the following CD's:

1) RUSH: 2112 (obviously!)
2) Autumn Tears "Garden Of Crystalline Dreams"
Or, just get EVERY Autumn Tears' CD! Every one of their CD's leads into the next one. They're even numbered: Act I, Act II, Act III, Act IV.

Now, Autumn Tears is not a heavy metal band, nor are their albums "Rock-Operas" (so to speak) but, their lyrics & entire storyline is phenominal. They're a dark Neo-Classical band. Very operatic female vocals, with awesome lush piano melodies.

Can find them at: www.darksymphonies.com
(It's their personal website & their record label)
Soundclips there too...

Chris



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2/23/2002 10:32 PM

Steve Cass (14763) wrote:

1) RUSH: 2112 (obviously!)

...and the meek shall inherit the earth...!!!

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2/23/2002 6:09 PM

Rex Jones (12455) wrote:

Hey Jon,
Going way, way, way, back, "Gypsy" did and album circa. 1971? called Gypsy.
I was in the service then, overseas, and the album was about a bunch of the things I was going through at the time. It was somewhat popular in the South Eastern states, young kids with good musical ideas. I found it again,in a used CD store 5-6 years ago.
Another album that was even heavier was a group called Aphrodite's Child and the name of the album was "666"... heavy metal view of the "Revelations" section of the Bible. Cool stuff sitting in a jungle 10,000 miles from home!
If you can find either of them, for what your attempting to do, I think they would be a good templet to gleen ideas from!
Good luck, sounds like a cool project!
Uncle Rex

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2/23/2002 7:02 PM

Steve Cass (14763) wrote:

An excellent example would be Jesus Christ Superstar by Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber. This was a rock opera that came out around 1970.

Steve

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2/23/2002 11:03 PM

Jake Lizzio (985) wrote:

Dream Theater's "Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory". Listening to that cd is like watching a movie... except without the watching part :-P
Also, Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, the second cd is a story.
They are both INCREDIBLE cd's.
See ya,
Jake

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2/24/2002 2:20 PM

Al Shah (346) wrote:

styx has a couple of these. they were all about the whole 'rock opera' thing, i think one CD was 'paradise theater' or something like that, and another big rock opera of theirs was the one with 'mr. roboto' in it, called 'kilroy was here'. i don't know if queen had any of those? for some reason I think they did, or at least some of their songs could have been called 'rock opera'.

my favorite concept albums (that's what these are called) are dream theater's 'scenes pt. 2' and opeth's 'still life'. jag panzer also did a good album about 'macbeth'. i think jethro tull also did some concept albums but i don't know.

just some hopefully useful input.
al

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2/24/2002 2:35 PM

Stacy Clark (1117) wrote:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Here. I always heard it was the first of the concept albums. Altho I don't think it is a pure concept album, only loosely so. But I understand the initial idea for it was to be that way.



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2/24/2002 4:49 PM

Larry Magri (3259) wrote:

Stacy, I would consider Sgt. Peppers a Concept Albuum. The art, and the songs where one of the first.

Larry

Pink Floyd, The Wall!!!!!! YES

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2/24/2002 3:56 PM

Lesa McCabe (662) wrote:

I am glad to see you mention Tommy.....that is a fantasic album...



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Re: Story-line Albums-->Transitions??

2/24/2002 8:49 PM

Jon Luke (238) wrote:

>>I am glad to see you mention Tommy.....that is a fantasic album...<<

Yeah... I just bought it today. Didn't get to listen to that much of it yet but it seems pretty good.

The tricky thing for me is that all of these albums have this 'epic' sound to them... they have these grand opening tracks and then they mellow down and get serious, with different high and low points in between... All of the songs, however, are roughly the same style of music. They might have a different sound to them, but they would all be classified in the same generic area.

The project that I'm working on is going to have a very wide range of styles such as surf, blues, rockabilly/rocknroll, punk, acoustic... This project in its working phase is only a week old... The singer started the lyrics months ago but the whole group just got together for the first time last week...

Anyhoo, the connection between the lyrics is very strong in my opinion, but how am I to go about trying to put these songs(of different styles) in a smooth progression? I'm afraid that the finished product might sound too choppy... If one song is an action-packed surf tune and the next song is a slow acoustic jam, how do I make the transition between the two? Because this is going to be a theater project as well, there will be some narration with underlying musical rhythms, so that might help...

Maybe its just too early in the creative process to worry about this, but it is the biggest obstacle I think I'm going to run into...

Any thoughts?



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2/25/2002 7:54 PM

Steve Cass (14763) wrote:

Maybe its just too early in the creative process to worry about this, but it is the biggest obstacle I think I'm going to run into...

For sure. You're not creating just a theme project. I'm thinking your going to have to know what the dialog (is there dialog, or is it all music?) is about and the music writing is going to have to come out of the emotions of that. Even if there's no dialog and only music, it's going to have to flow as the story line unfolds and the emotions from the lyrics dictate.

That's a very good reason for you to check out Andrew Lloyd Webber's stuff. Even though his works seem to have the same basic genre of music in each, the music rides the emotional story lines well.

Steve



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Re: Story-line Albums-->Transitions??

2/25/2002 10:45 PM

Jon Luke (238) wrote:

...I did have a similar thought to matching lyrical emotions to musical tone, but there is going to be a good variety of both of these things, which might make it hard to create a good musical flow.

The stuff mentioned about Webber sounds pretty interesting... I'm gonna check that out.

-Jon

P.S. There is dialog for the whole thing, but its kind of a racy topic and I'd rather not mention it on these boards (if you really would like to know more, send an email)...



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2/25/2002 11:53 PM

Steve Cass (14763) wrote:

Naw, I'd rather not know! lol. imo, since the dialog and music seem to have conflict, you're going to have to have one or the other drive your flow process so you can create something that makes sense. If you don't, it'll just be a mish-mash of stuff.

Steve



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Re: Story-line Albums-->Transitions??

2/26/2002 2:50 PM

Jon Luke (238) wrote:

Agreed.

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