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How would you rank the top five cds that you own?

1. The Who "Who's Next"
2. Jim Croce "50th Anniversary Collection"
3. Yes "Fragile"
4. Tim O'Brien "The Crossing"
5. The Moody Blues "Days of Future Passed"
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Re: How would you rank the top five cds that you own?

2/22/2002 9:48 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

  1. "Handel's Messiah - a Soulful Celebration" - Various Artists (this describes me musically better than anything)
  2. "Basie and Beyond" - Quincy Jones/Sammy Nestico Orchestra
  3. "Fourplay" - Fourplay
  4. "Rite of Strings" - Stanley Clarke, Al DiMeola, Jean-luc Ponty
  5. "Pick 'Em/Super Strings" - Ron Carter
And as an alternate, I'd have to include "Guitars that Rule the World." This and #5 aren't truly CDs, just ones and zeros I got from the Internet.

:)

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Re: How would you rank the top five cds that you own?

2/22/2002 11:32 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

1. Gin Blossoms - 'New Miserable Experience'

2. Gin Blossoms - 'Congratulations I'm Sorry'

3. Black Lab - 'Your Body Above Me'

4. Miles Davis - 'Kind Of Blue'

5. Jeff Buckley - 'Grace'


I got a wide taste, but my favorites are mostly rock.

Matthew

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2/23/2002 1:59 AM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

1. Tin Hat Trio - Helium
2. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
3. Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
4. Tom Waits - The Bone Machine
5. Procol Harum - A Salty Dog

-m

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Re: How would you rank the top five cds that you own?

2/23/2002 8:47 AM

Ken Szeto (1266) wrote:

1) Revolver - The Beatles
2) Sgt. Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band - The Beatles
3) OK Computer - Radiohead
4) The White Album - The Beatles
5) The Bends - Radiohead

Kind of obvious which bands I like huh? :)

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2/23/2002 10:05 AM

Chris Pinto (24466) wrote:

Hmmm...This is tough....These are my top-5 for the moment! Next week will be a different story! LOL! :)

1) The Who: "Quadrophenia"
2) Jag Panzer: "Mechanized Warfare"
3) Queensryche: "Warning"
4) Autumn Tears: "Garden of Crystalline Dreams"
5) YES: "Drama"

But, then there's also bands like Deep Purple, Ozzy, Priest, Sinergy, Children Of Bodom, Steve Morse, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Led Zep, VH,.....HOW CAN ANYBODY POSSIBLY PICK FIVE????

Chris



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Re: How would you rank the top five cds that you own?

2/23/2002 9:58 PM

Jake Lizzio (985) wrote:

1) Master Of Puppets (Metallica)
TIE FOR NUMBER 2-
2a) ...And Justice For All (Metallica)
AND
2b) Ride the Lightning (Metallica)
3) Metropolis Pt. 2 "Scenes From a Memory" (Dream Theater)
4) Magical Mystery Tour (The Beatles)
5) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Dream Theater)


LoL One doesn't quite fit in there, but its still part of my favorite music.
Jake

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2/23/2002 10:51 AM

Inactive Member wrote:

I dont own 5 cds. I download everything!



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2/23/2002 11:53 AM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

Well, feel free to thank those of us who do purchase CDs for supporting your habit.

-m



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2/23/2002 11:58 AM

Inactive Member wrote:

What do you mean? Do you actually think that when you buy a CD that your supporting your fav. bands. Think again! Most of the money goes to the lable. Why would anybody buy a CD when you can get it free. I can forsee a day when "record companies" dont exist. Artist who feel that their music is being stold, can always tour more for money. So if you want a thank you, call the recording lables they are the ones screwing you, me, their artist that they signed, radio stations, and the general public.





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2/23/2002 12:09 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

Maybe I'm supporting the label - and the artist. But how much well-produced music will there be for you to download if the labels decide it doesn't earn them enough money anymore to put out CDs because people feel they should get stuff for free that other people work hard to produce.

Artists can tour for more money? LOL LOL LOL wake up, most of the acts and even the big acts lose money when touring!







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2/23/2002 12:17 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

I'm trying harder not to respond w/ an attitude.

Maybe if the labels dropped the price of a full length CD to something more affordable (like $3) more people would buy them. Take in the fact that most CD's have one or two good songs surounded by crap, and the fact that they are easily downloaded, why would I buy something i don't want.

Example: I like two or three songs from Creed, why should I have to buy two or three seperate full length CDs to get those songs, when I can just download them.

Have you ever taped anything off the radio? Same thing on one hand, but I can argue (and win) that an MP3 file on my computer is in no way copyrighted by anyone. No matter what it sounds like when you play it.







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2/23/2002 12:23 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

one more thing, Led Zeppelin owned their own label and made 95% of the ticket price straight to their pockets. So, if more band dropped their labels and toured more, they would make lots more money.

The reason most bands lose money is because they are being screwed by their label.







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2/23/2002 12:42 PM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

I'm trying harder not to respond w/ an attitude.

Keep trying...

=)

Me? Inflammatory? Never! You do realize I'm just kidding here, I hope.

Take in the fact that most CD's have one or two good songs surounded by crap, and the fact that they are easily downloaded, why would I buy something i don't want.

Sounds to me like you're listening to the wrong bands, Joseph. Most of my recently purchased (my purchasing instincts a few years ago were not quite so finely honed) CDs have 90% great stuff on 'em with one or two songs of acceptable filler.

As I mentioned in my other post, I'm all for getting a couple of songs off a CD you think is otherwise garbage. I just don't think it's reasonable to get all of your music that way.

-m







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2/23/2002 5:12 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

a) Seems you don't know a thing about producing, marketing and selling CDs - granted, the pure production price of a CD is way below $3, but the costs of producing 45 minutes or more of music in a decent studio and of marketing a band are higher. Like it or not, without the help of the oh so bad record labels most of the bands you list on your homepage would never have made it. And the people working for the record label want to get their wages, too.

b) Even if the band only gets $.50 of every CD sold, your attitude robs them of those 50 cents.

c) Just like Maciek, I'm not against getting one or two songs of otherwise uninteresting CDs, but you make it sound like you're not buying any CDs and instead downloading everything you want.





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2/23/2002 12:32 PM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

The bands you mention on your homepage are pretty mainstream. Do you think you would ever have heard of them if it weren't for record companies?

I'm not saying buying a CD supports an artist. I'm saying it supports the system the artist is working within. Sure, the artist may not be happy with it, but they've signed the contract. They are taking advantage of the record companies' promotion, connections, and resources. They'd rather do that than sit at home and play in bars or try to make a corner for themselves in the vast currents of the world wide web. Otherwise, they wouldn't have signed (or they signed without knowing what they were doing, and I can't feel too sorry for them).

Record companies are a necessary evil. No, let me rephrase that. Record companies are necessary. Many just happen to also be evil. Record companies will always exist because they are the best way to get music out to people (and most people would rather have music come to them than search out music on their own).

I'm getting into more independent music now. You know what the difference between it and major label music is? The quality? No. The fidelity? Not really. The musical approach? Somewhat. But the real difference between major label and independent music is EXPOSURE. That's it. And as long as we live in a capitalist society, there will be companies that will be based around the idea of pushing the bands they sign to the highest levels of exposure for a piece of the pie.

I hate to break it to you, but the artists are bending over for the record companies willingly. You can't steal from one without stealing (in terms of potential promotional resources) from the other.

I'm not trying to pull any holier-than-thou crap here, either. I own pirated MP3s. But when I find a CD I like, I purchase it because I believe the system, while certainly flawed, is at its core good.

So yes, I do think you owe us a thank you, because, again, you never would have heard of half of your favorite bands if it weren't for major labels, and the major labels wouldn't last long with no CD sales...

-m





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2/23/2002 12:45 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

I love great debates........

But your wrong, life finds a way.... Where there is a will there is a way.

Prime example: Metallica (one of the biggest band against MP3 downloads) made it big without exposure at all. They made it on bootleg albums, bootleg T-shirts, bootleg everything! As a matter of fact their are plenty of mainstream bands that also made it inspite on the record companies. Let's see--Iron Maiden, had on radio time what so ever, they made it. Other bands such as Suicidal Tendencies made it big without exposure.

I believe if you take away the music companies, more music would be available.

Ever heard of the internet, I can make a home recording, transfer it to an MP3, and post it for downloads all over the net. The recording labels are dying everyday, and it wont be long until they dont exist anymore.

But hey if U want a thank You, I'll give it to ya. Thank You for being screwed over, better you than Me.





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2/23/2002 5:23 PM

Inactive Member wrote:

Sorry, but in 85% I guess I'd take a recording made in a professional studio over your home recording.
And I'd rather browse record stores where I know where to search for the stuff that interests me than surf the net in search of a gold nugget amidst all that bad stuff.





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2/23/2002 6:18 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

I agree with Joseph to the extent that the Internet provides a new way for artists to promote themselves, and I like to support their efforts wherever I can and bypass the record label industry. Putting out a good-sounding quality recording is not really difficult anymore.

I think if you search the Resources here you'll find several websites besides mp3.com that promote artists putting out their own work.

I guess the question is whether you can support you solely with your music using this method. These artists may never be able to escape their day job, but at least they have control over their musical endeavors.

Don't look for record label machinery to disappear any time soon . . . but downloaded music is DEFINTELY here to stay. IMHO.

thj






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2/23/2002 9:41 PM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

But hey if U want a thank You, I'll give it to ya. Thank You for being screwed over, better you than Me.

There, now was that so hard?

*sigh*

I give up. But I'll still contend you're listening to the wrong bands if you can only find a couple of songs per CD to like.

-m



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2/23/2002 3:11 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

Maciek, I purchase the tracks I download . . . I probably have mentioned it here before, but for $9.99 a month I can get unlimited downloads from emusic.com. Artists allegedly get paid per download, though I don't know if they actually get paid versus their label or if it is a combination.

It's probably not a place to go to get the current pop tunes, but it's unbeatable as a source for jazz, historic and current. I even got John Patitucci's latest release, "Communion," before Bass Player magazine reviewed it.

The downside about getting music this way is no liner notes . . . but more and more labels, especially the jazz ones, have a lot of that information on their own websites.

And once you've downloaded an MP3, it's yours . . . unlike the new upcoming services that only let you keep a file for so long and then it's disabled.

Just though you'd like to know.

:)





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2/23/2002 9:36 PM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

I use the illegit services very sparingly these days, usually to find something I probably couldn't buy if I wanted to (live songs, radio station appearances, out of print stuff).

Michael Palmer (whom I missed seeing when he was in San Francisco yesterday due to some bizarre phone mishap) got me hooked on Epitonic. I download a couple of songs a day there now. It's a great indie, semi-indie, and experimental/ambient site.

I've been thinking about subscribing to Emusic, but as you pointed out, it's a goldmine for jazz, something I'm not directly interested in. In general, I find the jazz aesthetic approach (the drum styles, the guitar tones, the song structures, etc.) to be mind-numbingly unbearable, sort of like the grossly misnamed genre of Easy Listening. I appreciate the rhythmic, melodic, and harmonic ideas of jazz, but I can't stand the typical jazz "setting". That's why I like Tin Hat Trio so much, and David Grisman, and even Django.

I may subscribe as I learn more about music theory and improve my ear, because I'm sure it's an awesome source for study material.

I wouldn't even mind the lack of liner notes, really: I hardly have time to read them anymore. I still have a Fleetwood Mac boxed set and a Tom Petty boxed set waiting to have their liner notes read...

-m



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2/24/2002 8:20 AM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

. . . I find the jazz aesthetic approach (the drum styles, the guitar tones, the song structures, etc.) to be mind-numbingly unbearable . . .

Two words for you, Maciek . . .

Charles Mingus .

Then I would direct you to amazon.com, look up "Mingus Big Band - 93: Nostalgia in Times Square"
and listen to the preview for "Moanin'" (it's NOT the Bobby Timmons' "Moanin'").

It is just insane. We're doing this in jazz band class and I just ordered the CD to see what it sounds like. When I can get the question phrased intelligently, I'm going to have to post it to the jazz braintrust here to get some clarification on what's happening with the harmony and the resulting bass line.

Mind-numbing, indeed!

:)





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2/24/2002 10:05 AM

Maciek Sakrejda (8047) wrote:

Thanks, Tracy. I'm checking out the CD right now (and I've already listened to the "Moanin'" sample and it's quite something), but I don't think I'm "ready" for it yet =). It's not different enough for me from "standard" jazz in its sound. "Weird Nightmare" is a start, though. More stuff like that (or at least that different) and I'd be more into it...

Sorry Tracy. I know it sucks when you say to someone, "Listen to how great this is!" and he replies "Eh..." (well, it's not "Eh..." in my case, but I can't really appreciate it yet, that's my point).

I'm having another listen to the "Moanin'" sample. It is pretty amazing what a thick, chunky, stew it is. All the different horns are doing their own motifs and at first it sounds like one big piece of harmonic texture, but as you focus on the different parts, you notice that they are there individually. And Mingus is goin' at it underneath all that... Now if I could just shoot that drummer... I'll keep this one in mind, Tracy. Thanks.

-m





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2/24/2002 1:16 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

Actually, this Mingus Big Band is a contemporary group dedicated to keeping his music alive (he died in 1979). I'm surprised at the good sound quality and the length of the Amazon track samples; they used to be much more of a tinny tease.

. . . I know it sucks when you say to someone, "Listen to how great this is!" and he replies "Eh..."

Well, I guess we can forget about ever jammin', then.

:)





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2/24/2002 1:25 PM

Tracy Hardy Johnson (11666) wrote:

Oh, and I do appreciate that you took the time to look up the track. I had a link all ready to go to that page, and then I realized it was my customized amazon.com page and it probably wouldn't show up on someone else's computer.

:)



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2/24/2002 9:27 AM

Shane Roe (9823) wrote:

I download a lot of my stuff from IUMA. This website is a veritable cornucopea of unknown artists, some of whom are very good, just waiting to becom known. I've downloaded some really great unknown music from there.

Shane

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